If you discover the Y haplotype for different branches of the Lauermann (Lauerman) family trees, you can compare the results with each other. You can discover,
that two separate branches ( or two so far unknown people) have the same genetic ancestor in spite of the fact, that it has not been proved in the birth record,
because of the absence of recorded data.
Of course, this is only true providing that each mother has her male offspring as a continuation of her family only with her legitimate husband. Owing to conjugal i
nfidelity or circumstances of reproduction In time of war in the history of central Europe, such Y chromosomal comparisons may not be so clear or valid.
The basic DNA test for the Y haplotype (only for males) for 12 markers cost over 100 $. This test reveals the relationship of 1000 year ago; and you can get it for
example on - www.familytreedna.com or on www.dnaheritage.com . This result also indicates the type of your haplogroup which means that you will know the
part of the planet, from where your ancestor came . More information is available at www.isogg.org .
Results of your DNA test can be compared on the web pages www.ysearch.org , www.ybase.org , www.smgf.org . Mostly you will find, that your “relatives” who
have the same value for the 12 markers as you have, will have a different surname. Stabilization of surnames – in the Bohemia region - was between The 14-18 centuries.
But if you are genetically related with someone, you must have 100% matches with this test, the only exception being very rare mutations of markers. If you want be
more sure about results of DNA searching, you can order a larger test for 35 markers , and this test will reveal the relationship of less than 500 year ago. At that time,
birth records were in use ; and in the case of 100% matching of this test, you can find relatives with the same surname.
It is also possible to do a test for more than 70 markers – more information is available at www.yhrd.org
In spite of any cost and difficulties, I think that DNA searching is an important part of genealogy searching. It could help you to draw your attention to a way to do
future family research.
The following DNA results are shown with the agreement of their owners named Lauermann.
Jihlava Family tree - values from man A, test for 35 markers from Genomac and Genebaze (CZ)
Haplogroup: R1B,origin - western Europe, Germans , partly Celtics.
DYS |
19 |
385 |
389I |
389II |
390 |
391 |
392 |
393 |
437 |
438 |
439 |
426 |
value |
14 |
11,14 |
13 |
29 |
23 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
15 |
12 |
11 |
12 |
DYS |
458 |
635 |
YCAIIa |
YCAIIb |
461 |
454 |
464a |
464b |
464c |
464d |
448 |
455 |
value |
17 |
26 |
19 |
23 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
19 |
11 |
DYS |
460 |
447 |
452 |
GATAH4 |
456 |
446 |
449 |
388 |
444 |
481 |
459 |
|
value |
11 |
25 |
30 |
11 |
15 |
13 |
28 |
12 |
12 |
22 |
9,10 |
|
values from man B which has common ancestor with man A in 1670 year.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
value |
15 |
13 |
23 |
30 |
17 |
14 |
11,14 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
26 |
13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
value |
12 |
15 |
12 |
19 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
22 |
12 |
9,10 |
28 |
25 |
Test for 24 markers - Genebaze.1 mutation for DYS 389 II, difference in GATA H4 because of different method of calculation.
Kayserwald 1 - test for 24 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R1b
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
15 | 13 | 24 | 29 | 17 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 12 | 11 | 26 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
Hodnota |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
22 |
12 |
9,10 |
27 |
25 |
Kayserwald 2 - test for 24 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R1b
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
15 | 13 | 24 | 29 | 17 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 12 | 10 | 26 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
Hodnota |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
22 |
12 |
9,10 |
27 |
25 |
Cervena Recice – The same values from two men who are cousins from USA. Test for 35 markers from Family tree dna
Haplogroup: I1B - I2a origin - Balkan area and Eastern Europe.
DYS |
393 |
390 |
19/394 |
391 |
385a |
385b |
426 |
388 |
439 |
389-1 |
392 |
CDYa |
value |
13 |
24 |
17 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
11 |
34 |
DYS |
389-2 |
458 |
459a |
459b |
455 |
454 |
447 |
437 |
448 |
449 |
464a |
CDYb |
value |
31 |
18 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
20 |
33 |
12 |
35 |
DYS |
464b |
464c |
464d |
460 |
H4 |
YCAIIa |
YCAIIb |
456 |
607 |
576 |
570 |
442 |
value |
14 |
15 |
15 |
11 |
10 |
21 |
21 |
15 |
12 |
18 |
18 |
11 |
DYS |
438 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
value |
10 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Haplogroup: I1b- I2a values from man B, which has common ancestor with the cuisins in 1793 year.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
value |
15 |
13 |
24 |
31 |
18 |
17 |
14,15 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
21 |
11 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
value |
11 |
15 |
10 |
20 |
13 |
10 |
13 |
30 |
11 |
8,10 |
33 |
24 |
Test for 24 markers - Genebaze. Resultes are the same, difference in GATA H4 because of different method of calculation.
Bělá pod Bezdězem - values from man A, test for 16 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R1b
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
value |
15 | 13 | 24 | 29 | 16 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
value |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
values from man B which has common ancestor with man A in 17 century. Test for 24 markers - Genebaze
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
value |
15 | 13 | 24 | 29 | 17 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 12 | 11 | 26 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
value |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
14,15 |
12 |
12 |
22 |
12 |
9,10 |
28 |
25 |
1 mutation in DYS 458 and 1 mutation in DYS 391
Praha - values from one man - test for 24 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R1b
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
value |
15 | 13 | 24 | 29 | 17 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
value |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
22 |
12 |
9,10 |
28 |
25 |
Plzeň - values from one man - test for 16 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R 1a - Easter Europe, Western and Central Asia
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
value |
17 | 14 | 24 | 30 | 17 | 16 | 11/14 | 13 | 10 | 11 | 23 | 11 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
value |
13 | 14 | 11 | 20 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Lednické Rovné - test for 24 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: I1B- I2a origin - Balkan area and Eastern Europe.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
15 | 13 | 24 | 31 | 18 | 17 | 14/15 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 22 | 11 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
446 |
444 |
388 |
481 |
426 |
459 |
449 |
447 |
Hodnota |
11 | 15 | 10 | 20 |
13 |
10 |
13 |
30 |
11 |
8,10 |
33 |
25 |
Skalice-Langenau - test for 16 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: I1B- I2a origin - Balkan area and Eastern Europe.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
15 | 13 | 24 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 14/15 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 22 | 11 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hodnota |
11 | 14 | 10 | 20 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
values from one man from Nothern Moravia - test for 16 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: Q - Central Asia, people who crossed Berings strait from Siberia to Nothern USA.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
16 | 13 | 23 | 29 | 18 | 14 | 13/17 | 13 | 9 | 12 | 23 | 16 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hodnota |
11 | 14 | 12 | 21 |
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Evandro from Brazil - test for 16 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R1b - there is a small reletionship in the same haplogroup between the man from Brazil and majority one from the Šluknov region.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
17 | 14 | 22 | 30 | 19 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hodnota |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
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Rene from Brazil - test for 16 markers - Genebaze
Haplogroup: R1b - there is a small reletionship in the same haplogroup between the man from Brazil and majority one from the Šluknov region.
DYS |
456 |
389/I |
390 |
389II |
458 |
19 |
385/ab |
393 |
391 |
439 |
635 |
392 |
Hodnota |
17 | 14 | 23 | 30 | 19 | 14 | 11/14 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 13 |
DYS |
GATAH4 |
437 |
438 |
448 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hodnota |
12 | 15 | 12 | 19 |
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We can say that family tree from Praha, Bělá pod Bezdězem, Jihlava and Kayserwald 1,2 has a common genetic ancestor. His descendats lived in Bohemia at area Litoměřice and Šluknov.
Branches from Červená Řečice and Lednické Rovné have a common genetic ancestor.
Plzeň has its own ancestor - because of different haplogroup.
Which values of the markers do you have? With whom are you related?
I am interested in the results of your DNA searching concerning all Lauermann (Lauerman) family trees including results of already tested ones. I would like to make comparisons between other foreign Lauermans and our Czech branches to find possibilities of relationship.